Good, Donna! Good! :)

once you tell us what you really think (the behind the scene insights), your stuff is great!

Delia

P.S. sorry I didn't see your follow up articles before posting the proir entry!

P.P.S. keep it up! appreciate it...:) D.

ooh, Donna... (still eating up the BS)

MORE: and what's with the adulatory tone? after all this time... (embarassing, especially for somebody with a journalistic background) D.

again, she's getting some good info(such as the fact that Ebay had "no voice" in craigslist's decision to "sponsor" Berkeley; answer to first question) but she is barely mentioning real issues such as craigslist being the "incorporated for profit dot-org" that's "doing well" and even then you have to read between the lines... (just how "well" is craigslist doing and for how long and how do they keep "saving" all that dough that keeps ending up in their pockets? and what's the impact of all that on the community that built craigslist and continues to make it work?)

Delia

you can do MUCH better than that Donna! you might not be able to get Craig&Jim to talk to you if you told it like it is but at least you'd get peoples' respect... D.

craigslist acting like a walled garden...

Craig Donato (Oodle), answering Donna Bogatin's question:" Craigslist a walled garden? Yes, I guess you could say they are acting like one. They are putting up a wall between the listings that consumers publish in their marketplace and those consumers that may want to use a search engine or other tool to help them shop with online classifieds"

Delia

P.S. great info again! (I just wish Donna could overcome craigslist's PR...and she just might:) -- she keeps getting pretty good info... you'd think at some point she would just let go of all that non-sense...) D.

Donna keeps embarassing herself...

... just can't stop eating up their goofy PR... (as I was saying, once you've bought the craigslist spiel... it's hard to think straight...) D.

craigslist expenses: how hard can it be to come up with a good estimate?

Jim:"Craigslist uses a 3 tier architecture:Cache->Web->Database and deploys approximately 200 Intel-based servers built to our specs with a LAMP (linux, apache, mysql, perl) framework. Mod_perl , mod_gzip; 175,000 page views per kilowatt-hour" (answer to forth question)

and they have 24 employees... and "approximately 7.5 billion" pageviews per month
(answer to sixth question)

you'd think anybody familiar with the type of business should have no problem figuring out how much does that cost...

Delia

P.S. Again,(P.S. for that entry), Donna deserves credit for having gotten a more detailed breakdown of what it takes to run craigslist than I've previously seen... D.

Howard gives Donna some good pointers...

EVEN MORE: Same tactic Jennifer fell for

MORE: same tactic here (Jim) and here (Craig: "we don't know what to do with the money")... just listen to the interviews, speeches etc. (they are full of this crap...)
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re: (purposefully) misconstruing inconvenient questions

Delia

P.S. still, Donna deserves some credit for having asked some real questions, this time... (her serve wasn't bad but she needs to work on her backhand:) D.

chatter it *is*... (Donna Bogatin's blog: Insider Chatter)

Craig:"Donna Bogatin, who as of yesterday was the leading blogger at zdnet"

really? Donna was ZDNet's star??? (God help ZDNet!) then again, according to Craig, that was yesterday... Donna gives us no clue as to what happened... (why isn't she with ZDNet anymore...? Could it be that they finally realized she was supposed to interview people -- to ask them real questions -- and not just chat with them and agree with everything they would like her to publish, like she did and keeps doing in Craig's case?)

Delia

Donna falls into Craig's trap... *again*...

EVEN MORE: Oh... and poor Matt is also sold on the spiel! and not just temporarily... (he actually rushed to introduce himself to Craig! -- middle of second paragraph). This whole thing is going to be sooo funny when people finally wake up... :) D.

MORE: Sadly, Donna is not the only groupie-like journalist interviewing Craig -- take a look at NBC's Jamie, for instance -- it's hard to see how she could have come up with a more favorable report towards Craig/craigslist would he have paid her for it! : she does bring up some criticism but she simply states the issues that others have brought up and... moves on... well, even worse... as a counter to craigslist criticism she actually offers craiglist's claim that "the company says it is aggressive about criminal use and pornography" (3.54 minute mark) -- oh, really? they say that? now, isn't that nice? ... and objective! (sounds like Craig's own press... all over again...)

re: " Newmark reiterated the Craigslist contention that his namesake free classifieds site is not the cause of a decline in print classifieds revenues, given that Craigslist postings are generally “new” listings, not displacement listings.

In other words, Craigslist classifieds postings would not exist, anywhere, if Craigslist did not exist."

So what if plenty of craigslist ads would not exist elsewhere -- enough of them would! Again, Craig is not necessarily lying (notice he uses "generally"), just being vague and ambiguous as usual and his clueless admirer (who is a journalist, of all things) walks straight into his trap… again, not at all unusual…

Delia

P.S. although I’m beginning to think Craig could tell Donna the Earth is flat and she would dutifully report it…:)

P.P.S. BTW, Craig has previously acknowledged craigslist has "same effect on newspaper classifieds" -- it's hard to believe Donna was not aware of this... (4.09 minute mark) D.